Legislature(2003 - 2004)

01/28/2003 08:51 AM Senate FIN

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                              MINUTES                                                                                         
                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                         January 28, 2003                                                                                     
                              8:51 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPES                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SFC-03 # 1, Side A                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken convened  the meeting at approximately 8:51 AM.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Lyda Green, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Con Bunde                                                                                                               
Senator Ben Stevens                                                                                                             
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:  WILLIAM CORBUS, Commissioner Appointee,  Department                                                          
of Revenue                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Attending   via  Teleconference:   There   were  no  teleconference                                                           
participants                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  conducted a Confirmation Hearing on  the Commissioner                                                            
Appointee   for  the  Department   of  Revenue  and  forwarded   the                                                            
nomination to a joint session for consideration.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     REPORT ON CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENTS:                                                                                    
     William Corbus, Commissioner, Department of Revenue                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken announced  that the Committee would be reviewing the                                                            
appointment of  William (Bill) Corbus as Commissioner  of Department                                                            
of Revenue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM  CORBUS,  Commissioner  Appointee,  Department  of  Revenue,                                                            
communicated that  he is honored to appear before  the Committee for                                                            
the consideration  of his appointment.  He explained that,  prior to                                                            
arriving in Alaska in 1970  to begin his career with Alaska Electric                                                            
Light  &  Power  Company  (AEL&P),  he  worked  for  four  years  in                                                            
investment  banking and as a security  analyst in the New  York City                                                            
Wall Street financial sector.  He specified that during the last 30-                                                            
years, he has been a member  of three banks' Board of Directors, was                                                            
a  founding  member  and  Chairman   of the  Alaska   State  Pension                                                            
Investment  Board,  served   on the  Highway   Gas  Pipeline  Policy                                                            
Council,  and has  been involved  in  various capacities  in  State,                                                            
civic, and charitable  organizations. He stressed  that, if provided                                                            
the  opportunity,  he would  serve  the  State to  the  best of  his                                                            
abilities and  would join with Governor  Murkowski's Administration                                                             
and the Legislature to work for the betterment of the State.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus continued  that,  if appointed  Commissioner,  he  would                                                            
further efforts  to develop the gas pipeline, work  to "resolve [the                                                            
State's]  financial  problems,  and  review  the  oil  and  gas  tax                                                            
legislation" to  determine how "to encourage more  investment in oil                                                            
and gas on the North Slope."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked the testifier  to expand on avenues  to address                                                            
the State's revenue challenges.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus  echoed Governor  Murkowski's recent  State of the  State                                                            
speech assertion  that a  solution to the  State's revenue  issue is                                                            
oil development.  He commented that  the State should encourage  the                                                            
oil industry to continue its investment in this endeavor.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  voiced that there is  an "Alaska disconnect"  whereby                                                            
the State  spends more  on services  to citizens  than it  receives,                                                            
which "increases  the State's deficit."  He asked the testifier  how                                                            
the State could address this issue.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus responded  that  while  he has  heard this  issue  being                                                            
discussed,  he does not currently  "have a solution to address  this                                                            
reported problem."                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  questioned how oil  could be "the solution"  to the                                                            
State's budget  deficit when the new oil revenue is  not expected to                                                            
be generated  "for seven to  ten years" which  is a few years  after                                                            
the Constitutional Budget  Reserve (CBR) projected depletion date of                                                            
2005.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus  responded  that  the  State  is  struggling  with  this                                                            
predicament;  however, he  is not in  a position  to answer  at this                                                            
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman commented  that  the development  of a  long-term                                                            
financial plan  has been discussed  for several years, and  that, as                                                            
part  of  that  discussion,  the  Alaska  Permanent  Fund  Board  of                                                            
Directors has suggested  implementation of "a five percent of market                                                            
value  payout."   He  noted  that  several  pieces  of  legislation                                                             
addressing  the Permanent  Fund have been  introduced this  session,                                                            
and he asked Mr.  Corbus for his view regarding the  five percent of                                                            
market value payout.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus noted that because  the Permanent Fund Board of Directors                                                            
has  not   held  a   meeting  since   his  appointment   as   Acting                                                            
Commissioner, he has "not  had a chance to review and understand the                                                            
proposal at that level."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  voiced that Mr. Corbus'  private industry  background                                                            
might provide  opportunities to improve, reorganize,  or re-energize                                                            
the  Department,  and she  asked whether  any  new ideas  have  been                                                            
presented.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus  responded  that  the  "tremendous   labor"  that  AEL&P                                                            
invested  into the development  of a long-range  financial  plan has                                                            
been beneficial.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  commented that the  Governor has suggested  a portion                                                            
of the Permanent  Fund be tapped "to  stimulate the economy"  of the                                                            
State. He noted that the  Permanent Fund is of particular importance                                                            
to  rural  Alaska,  and  he asked  Mr.  Corbus  his  views  on  this                                                            
proposal.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus understood  the Governor's comments to  be "a request" to                                                            
the  Permanent  Fund  Dividend  Division  to  consider  encouraging                                                             
companies that  the State "invests in to create jobs"  in the State.                                                            
He stated that  he would support that  directive. He continued  that                                                            
the affect  of this  directive on  rural verses  urban areas  is not                                                            
known at this time.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson asked Mr.  Corbus how proposals such as the Governor's                                                            
proposal to implement State  tax incentives to stimulate the economy                                                            
might impact  "tax-gathering" institutions  such as boroughs  in the                                                            
State.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus  voiced that  he is not  familiar enough  with local  tax                                                            
levies to expand on the affect State tax incentives would have.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked Mr. Corbus  to comment on the Permanent  Fund                                                            
Board's  recommendation  for implementation  of a  State mandate  to                                                            
inflation proof the Permanent Fund.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus responded  that he does not currently have  a position on                                                            
this issue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson, noting Mr.  Corbus' electric  utilities background,                                                             
communicated  the importance  of the Power  Cost Equalization  (PCE)                                                            
program  to rural Alaskans.  He asked  Mr. Corbus  to comment  about                                                            
"this often contentious program."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus  reported that the Department  of Revenue is responsible                                                             
for investment  decisions  regarding  the current  $153 million  PCE                                                            
endowment fund  as well as calculating the percent  of the fund that                                                            
would  be  dedicated  to  support  the PCE  program.  He  noted  the                                                            
Department  of Community and Economic  Development's involvement  in                                                            
managing funding  sources for such  things as the administration  of                                                            
the program.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus emphasized  the  importance  of properly  investing  the                                                            
endowment fund  to ensure the required  level of funding  to support                                                            
the PCE program.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde noted that  Committee members'  questions pertain  to                                                            
issues  that  they, rather  than  the  Commissioner  Appointee,  are                                                            
familiar with.  However, he continued, the questions  reflect topics                                                            
that would  likely be  revisited with Department  administration  in                                                            
the future.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde communicated  that some would argue that the Permanent                                                            
Fund is currently  being "double"  inflation-proofed as a  result of                                                            
the earnings  it generates  in addition to  the amount dedicated  to                                                            
the fund by the  Legislature. He asked whether Mr.  Corbus considers                                                            
this process to  be "a wise practice" in this time  of limited State                                                            
general funds availability.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus  responded  that he  is  not familiar  enough  with  the                                                            
process to comment.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  asked Mr. Corbus whether  the Alaska Municipal  Bond                                                            
Bank  Authority,   the  Alaska  Industrial   Development   &  Export                                                            
Authority (AIDEA), and  the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation which                                                            
"are semi-autonomous corporations"  within the Department of Revenue                                                            
could be merged in order to generate efficiencies or save money.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus  replied  that he  could not  provide an  answer at  this                                                            
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde  inquired  as  to  the  status  of  the Department's                                                             
internal performance audit as requested by the Governor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Corbus  remarked that  the first  phase of  the audit, which  he                                                            
characterized as a "definitional  phase" explaining the Department's                                                            
missions and objectives,  was submitted to the Office  of Management                                                            
& Budget in  early January. He stated  that the second phase  of the                                                            
audit is in  progress, and that the  Department has been  granted an                                                            
extension on the original deadline.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked when the report might be completed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Corbus replied  that  a completion  date  for the  final  audit                                                            
report has not been established.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  brought  attention   to Mr.  Corbus  distinguished                                                             
military  service and thanked  Mr. Corbus  for appearing before  the                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  moved to forward  the nomination  to a joint  session                                                            
for consideration.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There being no  objections, the nomination REPORTED  from Committee.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Gary Wilken adjourned the meeting at 09:15 AM.                                                                         

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